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THE LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH BIOGRAPHY

Formed in 1981, The Lords of the New Church already carried international Punk Rock pedigree. One could say they were to "punk" what Asia was "progressive stadium rock." Singer Stiv Bator and guitarist Brian James were founding members of (respectively) Cleveland's Dead Boys and London's The Damned. Both were successful, influential punk pioneers. The band was rounded out by punk stalwarts Dave Tregunna (bass, formerly of Sham 69) and Nick Turner (drums, formerly of The Barracudas).

While The Lords retained a punk rebellion, their music was darker, more melodic and (frankly) better-produced. Their talents alienated the die-hard punk audience, while bringing them a wider, more diverse following.

The Lords concept began in 1980 when Bator and James renewed an acquaintance that began when the Dead Boys opened for the Damned on several CBGB dates and an English tour. After splitting with their previous bands, Bator and James briefly enlisted ex-Generation X bassist Tony James and ex-Clash drummer Terry Chimes. Later in 1980, Damned drummer Rat Scabies, and Tregunna replaced Tony and Terry for a single gig billed as the "Dead Damned Sham Band." By the time The Lords recorded their self-titled I.R.S. release in 1982, Turner had replaced Scabies and this more or less became the permanent lineup retained throughout the band's most productive years.

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Though the debut was well-received, The Lords became more notorious for their live shows. A devotee of Iggy Pop, Bator had developed a fearless reputation in his Dead Boys days and continued such antics with The Lords. The most famous being the time he reportedly hanged himself during a show. Bator's stunt had went awry. He was pronounced clinically dead for several minutes. Nonetheless, Bator survived and The Lords recorded two more successful albums for I.R.S., IS NOTHING SACRED? and THE METHOD TO OUR MADNESS.

In 1985, The Lords slowly began to disintegrate. They recorded a mockingly rich single of Madonna's "Like A Virgin" for the IRS' "Best Of" Collection, KILLER LORDS. Around this time Tregunna left, replaced briefly by Grant Flemming, before returning to the band a short time later. A second guitarist, Alistair Simmons, was also added but later canned. Eventually Turner quit to be with his singer/actress wife, Hillary Shepard (of IRS stablemate American Girls with whom he had started a family) and was replaced by Danny Fury on the drums. Bator injured his back in 1988, forcing James to advertise for a replacement singer. When Bator found out, he played the encore of his last show donning a T-shirt with James' newspaper ad printed across the front. He then proceeded to fire the remaining members on-stage.

Bator died in 1990 of injuries sustained when he was struck by a car in Paris, quashing all possibilities of his return or a reunion of the original band.

In 2001, surviving members Brian James and Dave Tregunna announced a reformed Lords of the New Church. This new line-up, now a quintet consisting of James and Tregunna and new members Steven Marque on vocals, Jez Miller on guitar, and "Ozzie" on drums is set to tour Europe in spring 2002 and the US in the summer. A new album by this line up is due in May 2002.

Stay tuned for more details!

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THE LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH I.R.S. DISCOGRAPHY

This discography will cover only THE LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH's recordings for I.R.S. Records. Recordings for other labels, other recordings, solo recordings and guest appearances, may be mentioned in the biography or discography, but details can be found by visiting some of the cool links for THE LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH, below...

Albums & EPs

SP 70029 LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
IRS SP 70029 (Released 9 Sept 1982)

Vinyl and Cassette.
Reissued as SP75029 (midprice line) CD & Cassette in 1986.

Produced by The Lords
Recorded at Farmyard Studios
Mega Thanks to Miles Copeland, Derek Dowsett and the Illegal Gang
Mastered by Frank DeLuna & Marv Bornstein at A&M
Layout by Carl Grasso


Musicians:
Stiv Bator lead vocals
Brian James guitar & backing vocals
Dave Tregunna bass & backing vocals
Nick Turner drums & backing vocals
Additional Musicians:
Matt Irving synthesizers
Simon & Rudi horns

Track Listing:

  1. New Church (Bator/James) 3:33
  2. Russian Roulette (T. James/Chimes) 3:47
  3. Question of Temperature (Appel/Schung/Henny) 2:55
  4. Eat Your Heart (Bator/James) 2:34
  5. Portobello (Bator/James) 2:59
  6. Open Your Eyes (Bator/James) 3:28
  7. Livin' On Livin' (Bator/James) 3:20
  8. Li'l Boys Play With Dolls (Bator/James) 3:41
  9. Apocalypso (Bator/James) 3:09
  10. Holy War (Bator/James) 4:22

Although The Lords members had spawned punk rock, their debut album announced to the world that the Lords of the New Church were more than a punk band. They'd now proclaim to be the last beacon of truth in a world nearing its end. Guitarist Brian James and the Tregunna/Turner rhythm section provide a pulsating, bleak canvas for the face, mouth, and heart of The Lords, Stiv Bator. Here Bator casts himself in the role of rock & roll poet/preacher/prophet. On THE LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH, his lyrical maturity overthrows his former useless Dead Boys ramblings. Consider The Lords ethos from their debut opening track, "New Church" -- "Truth can't be found on the television/Throw away youth ya gotta take a stand/Music is your only weapon/Spanners in the works go start your gang..." LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH stands as a thorn twisting in it's Reagan era side. Bator's message of personal freedom, and the fervor and integrity with which The Lords delivered it, shall forever remain timeless. Be a Lord of the New Church...

--Adam W Becvare


SP70039 IS NOTHING SACRED?
IRS SP 70039 (Released 20 Sept 1983)

Vinyl & Cassette.
Reissued as SP75039 (midprice line) CD & Cassette in 1987.
Produced by The Lords (except *)
* Produced by Todd Rundgren
Recorded At Farmyard Studios (except *)
* Recorded At Utopia Sound Studios
* Engineered by Chris Anderson
Photos by Paul Glasson & Chris Garnham
Illustration by Graham Humphries
Mega thanks to Ivor Nesquick for Organized loyalty above and beyond.
Thanks also to Ian Sales

Musicians:
Stiv Bator lead vocals
Brian James guitar & backing vocals
Dave Tregunna bass & backing vocals
Nick Turner drums & backing vocals
Additional Musicians:
Matt Black synthesizers
Rudi Thompson tenor sax & trumpet
Simon Lloyd alto sax & trumpet
Todd Rundgren synths on track #10

Track Listing:

  1. Dance With Me (Bator/James) 3:24
  2. Bad Timing (Bator/James) 3:38
  3. Johnny Too Bad (Bator/James) 3:56
  4. Don't Worry Children (Bator/Tregunna) 3:42
  5. The Night is Calling (Bator/Turner) 4:56
  6. Black Girl/White Girl (Bator/James) 3:39
  7. Goin' Downtown' (Bator/James) 3:52
  8. Tale of Two Cities (Bator/James) 3:50
  9. World Without End (Bator/James) 5:24
  10. Partners in Crime (Bator/James) 2:40
  11. Live For Today (Mogul/Shapiro/Julien) 3:42 *
The Lords of the New Church continue to embrace rock's classic dangerous, vaguely satanic side and it's this shadow which looms largely over their second album. Stiv Bator's lip sneering, delivery pouts against Brian James' tele slashing, leaving Dave Tregunna's bass to lead the way. Forget Charlie Watts, Nick Turner provides his always dependable backbeat. IS NOTHING SACRED? even offers such Stones-y song titles as "Black Girl/White Girl," "Goin' Downtown" and "Partners in Crime." Was this a conscious homage? If IS NOTHING SACRED? were a Stones album, it'd be a damn good one, well played and entertaining throughout. The less rocking "Dance with Me" is a funky, slinky, and goth-tinged satanic ritual and ironically, one of their biggest hits. A somber, doubt-filled version of the Grass Roots' classic "Live for Today" with the slick production and keyboards of Todd Rundgren, closes the album on an uplifting though incongruous note. There's a tremendous feeling The Lords made this album for themselves. Take a listen to the reggae-influenced "Johnny Too Bad" and it's confirmed. As a follow-up to The Lords' thundering debut, IS NOTHING SACRED? is an enlightening look inside The Lords, and another walk in the rock n roll shadows.

--Adam W Becvare


SP70409 LIVE FOR TODAY EP
IRS SP 70409 (Released 21 June 1983)

Vinyl Only
Produced by The Lords (except *)
* Produced by Todd Rundgren
Recorded on 8 Track At IRL (except *)
* Recorded At Utopia Sound Studios, New York
* Engineered by Chris Anderson
Photography by Chris Garnham
Design by Graham Humphreys



Musicians:
Stiv Bator lead vocals
Brian James guitar & backing vocals
Dave Tregunna bass & backing vocals
Nick Turner drums & backing vocals
Additional Musicians:
Matt Black synthesizers
Rudi Thompson horns

Track Listing:

  1. Live For Today (Mogul/Shapiro/Julien) 3:42 *
  2. Opening Nightmares (Bator/James) 3:56
  3. Dreams and Desires (Bator/James) 3:42

Review coming Soon!


70049 THE METHOD TO OUR MADNESS
IRS SP 70049 (Released 1 April 1985)

Vinyl & Cassette
Reissued as SP75049 (midprice line) CD & Cassette in 1987.

Produced by Cris Tsangarides for Rock Steady Productions
Assisted by Andy Warwick
Recorded at Studio Miravel (France), Powerplant, Battery & Musicworks (England)
Mixed at Farmland Maison Rouge & Battery Studios
Photography by Sheila Rock
Design by Graphyk
Thanks to Ian Sales & the FBI

Musicians:
Stiv Bator lead vocals
Brian James guitar & backing vocals
Dave Tregunna bass & backing vocals
Nick Turner drums & backing vocals
Additional Musicians:
Matt Irving, Chris Tsangarides, Mike Hugg synthesizers & keyboards
Rudi Thompson horns
Jacques Loussier piano
Vicki & Samantha Brown, Helen Chappelle, Tricia Ronane, Paola Pieroni, and Tanya Landau backing vocals
Miles Copeland verbal abuse on Cut #1
Hein Hoven string arrangements

Track Listing:

  1. Method to My Madness (Bator/James) 3:18
  2. I Never Believed (Bator/James) 3:39
  3. Pretty Baby Scream (Bator/James) 5:02
  4. S.F. & T. (Bator/James) 3:36
  5. When the Blood Runs Cold (Bator/James) 3:42
  6. Fresh Flesh (Bator/James) 3:32
  7. Murder Style (Bator/James/Tregunna) 4:11
  8. The Seducer (Bator/James) 4:13
  9. Kiss of Death (Bator/James) 3:36
  10. Do What Thou Wilt (Bator/James) 4:13
  11. My Kingdom Come (Bator/James) 4:10

The Lords' third release, rockwise THE METHOD TO OUR MADNESS sounds closer to their debut. The band is much rawer than their previous release thanks to the energies and production of Chris Tsangarides. The opening salvo is "Method to My Madness," a straight-up rocker with vocal contribution by I.R.S. Records' impresario & CEO Miles Copeland, who admonishes, "...don't go tellin' secrets -- this record's gotta sell!" After that, The Lords aggression level rests only for the Russian Roulette-like ballad, "I Never Believed" and "When Blood Runs Cold" (which includes Strings with Stiv!) THE METHOD TO OUR MADNESS contains some of The Lords' best non-hits: the sinister, bass-driven single "Murder Style" and "The Seducer," a tale of a figure who might be a messiah, might be an antichrist, probably not too far off from how Bator saw himself. The closer, "My Kingdom Come" brings it all to an end -- and it was; The Lords would never again record at full power before their split in 1988.

--Adam W Becvare.


IRS 5726 & 13178 KILLER LORDS
IRS 5726 (Released 1986)

Vinyl, Cassette & CD
Re-released in 1988 as IRS 13178 with bonus material
CD and Cassette only

1988 Re-release compiled by John Guarnieri
Other Production Credits:
Coming Soon!



Musicians:
Stiv Bator lead vocals
Brian James guitar & backing vocals
Dave Tregunna bass & backing vocals
Nick Turner drums & backing vocals
Additional Musicians:
Coming Soon!

Track Listing:

  1. Dance With Me (Re-mix) (Bator/James)
  2. Hey Tonight (Fogerty)
  3. Russian Roulette (T. James/Chimes)
  4. M~Style (Bator/James/Tregunna)
  5. Black Girl/White Girl (Bator/James)
  6. Live For Today (Mogul/Shapiro/Julien)
  7. Method To My Madness (Bator/James)
  8. Open Your Eyes (Bator/James)
  9. I Never Believed (Bator/James)
  10. Lords Prayer (Smith)
  11. New Church (Bator/James)
  12. Like A Virgin (Kelly/Steinberg)
  13. Girls Girls Girls (Bator/James)
  14. Opening Nightmares (Bator/James)
  15. Dreams & Desires (Bator/James/Tregunna)
  16. I'm Not Running Hard Enuff
  17. Fresh Flesh (Bator/James)
  18. Sorry For The Man (Rose/Simpson)
  19. Gun Called Justice (Bator/James)

Review coming Soon! Originally released in 1986 with only tracks 1 thru 12. The above information (and cover image) pertains to the 1988 re-release with 7 bonus tracks (13 thru 19).


Singles

IR9908 "Open Your Eyes"/"A Question Of Temperature"
IR9908 (Released 18 August 1982)

Produced by The Lords
Other Production Credits
Coming Soon!


REVIEW COMING SOON!


70962 "Open Your Eyes"/"Holy War"
IRS SP 70962 (Released 1982)

(PROMOTIONAL 12" VINYL)



Produced by The Lords
Other Production Credits
Coming Soon!


REVIEW COMING SOON!


IR9921 "Live For Today"/"Girls Girls Girls"
IR9921 (Released 16 August 1983)

Produced by Todd Rundgren (for Alchemedia Prod. Inc.)
Engineered by Chris Andersen
Recorded at Utopia Sound Studios, New York
B-Side Produced by The Lords
B-Side recorded at Farmyard Studios, England
Photography by Chris Garnham
Design by Graham Humphries

REVIEW COMING SOON!


70984 Sleeve "Method To My Madness"/"?"
IRS SP 70984 (Released 1985)

(PROMOTIONAL 12" VINYL)



Produced by The Lords
Other Production Credits
Coming Soon!


REVIEW COMING SOON!


Compilations & Soundtracks

BORN TO SKI SOUNDTRACK (IRS 13134): features "John The Bad"
HEARING AIDS (no number) includes "Live For Today"
KROQ PRESENTS THE NORMAL NOISE OF IRS (IRS #?) includes "Dance With Me"
OUT OF BOUNDS SOUNDTRACK (IRS 6180): features "Fresh Flesh"
THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2 SOUNDTRACK (IRS 6184) includes "Good To Be Bad" and "Mind Warp"
THESE PEOPLE ARE NUTS! (IRS82010) includes "Like A Virgin"


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